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Enemies In Love
I think I've figured out why I love the Spuffy relationship so much more than I like Buffy/Angel.
And it's quite simple, really, because it's the same reason that I like almost all the couples I'm madly shippy about.
One's good, one's evil, and they're in love anyway.
It seems to be a fool-proof way of making me like a couple: put them on opposite sides, and then have them fall in love.
And that's definitely got to be the main reason I'm into Spuffy, because if you look at most of the other couples I like, they all fit the same pattern:
Darla/Angel - She's evil, he's good, and they just can't help themselves.
Wes/Lilah - Same deal.
And then there's Elizabeth/Darcy, Tru/Jack, Buffy/Faith, Angel/Lindsey, Wes/Illyria, Lilah/just-about-anyone... even Mal/Inara fits the pattern. Sure, they're not a straight good/evil pair, but they are very clearly on opposite sides - and they're still in love.
And as much as I liked Buffy/Angel, it was basically a good person in love with a reformed person. Which is fine - but not nearly as interesting as a good person in love with someone who's flat out evil.
The Buffy/Spike relationship, on the other hand, is insane. People just aren't supposed to fall in love with their arch-nemesis. Spike is horrified when he realises he's falling for Buffy, she's horrified in return, they both know how ridiculously stupid a relationship would be... and yet...
This is why, as much as I go nuts for Wes/Fred, I'm even more nuts about Wes/Lilah - and downright thrilled when Illyria comes along, because suddenly the relatively straightforward Wes/Fred relationship gets turned into another good/evil pairing. It's awesome!
This also applies from a friendship point of view. As much as I enjoy Crichton and D'Argo as friends, their friendship is nothing compared to Crichton/Scorpius. Ditto with the Doctor/the Master, House/Wilson, and, mostly inside my own head, Spike/Angel.
I just love it when two people are working from such completely opposing perspectives, and yet they keep being friends, because when it comes down to it, they can't not be.
This is why my version of Tru Calling will always include a very twisted Tru/Jack relationship, why I rewatch that phonecall between the Doctor and the Master again and again, and why my absolute favourite moment in the whole of Angel is Wes growling "He's necessary - for fighting people like you," and then wrestling Lilah to the floor...
*happy sigh of shippiness*
Questions? Comments?
And it's quite simple, really, because it's the same reason that I like almost all the couples I'm madly shippy about.
One's good, one's evil, and they're in love anyway.
It seems to be a fool-proof way of making me like a couple: put them on opposite sides, and then have them fall in love.
And that's definitely got to be the main reason I'm into Spuffy, because if you look at most of the other couples I like, they all fit the same pattern:
Darla/Angel - She's evil, he's good, and they just can't help themselves.
Wes/Lilah - Same deal.
And then there's Elizabeth/Darcy, Tru/Jack, Buffy/Faith, Angel/Lindsey, Wes/Illyria, Lilah/just-about-anyone... even Mal/Inara fits the pattern. Sure, they're not a straight good/evil pair, but they are very clearly on opposite sides - and they're still in love.
And as much as I liked Buffy/Angel, it was basically a good person in love with a reformed person. Which is fine - but not nearly as interesting as a good person in love with someone who's flat out evil.
The Buffy/Spike relationship, on the other hand, is insane. People just aren't supposed to fall in love with their arch-nemesis. Spike is horrified when he realises he's falling for Buffy, she's horrified in return, they both know how ridiculously stupid a relationship would be... and yet...
This is why, as much as I go nuts for Wes/Fred, I'm even more nuts about Wes/Lilah - and downright thrilled when Illyria comes along, because suddenly the relatively straightforward Wes/Fred relationship gets turned into another good/evil pairing. It's awesome!
This also applies from a friendship point of view. As much as I enjoy Crichton and D'Argo as friends, their friendship is nothing compared to Crichton/Scorpius. Ditto with the Doctor/the Master, House/Wilson, and, mostly inside my own head, Spike/Angel.
I just love it when two people are working from such completely opposing perspectives, and yet they keep being friends, because when it comes down to it, they can't not be.
This is why my version of Tru Calling will always include a very twisted Tru/Jack relationship, why I rewatch that phonecall between the Doctor and the Master again and again, and why my absolute favourite moment in the whole of Angel is Wes growling "He's necessary - for fighting people like you," and then wrestling Lilah to the floor...
*happy sigh of shippiness*
Questions? Comments?
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With you all the way.
And at first I always start thinking that our generation is just crazy, but then I realize that it seems to be an age-old trick.. Even Romeo and Juliet had the opposite-sides thing going, if not in a slightly different way. It's a dynamic that's just too good to resist!
And that's definitely got to be the main reason I'm into Spuffy,
Spuffy seems to be one of the few ships that gets almost as much attention in fandom as it did in canon, if not more so. And although I was never crazy about it myself - for whatever reason Spike's romanticism just irks me..I fail at being romantic - I can completely see why. They're the epitome of 'one's good, one's evil, and they're in love anyway.' Definitely one of Joss's better moves fan-wise.
Wes/Lilah...Buffy/Faith, Angel/Lindsey, Wes/Illyria, Lilah/just-about-anyone...even Mal/Inara
Yes, yes, and more yes. Are we shippy soul-mates? (Especially the Lilah/anyone.. Not like I would ever invent strange, non-canon Lilah relationships..nooope.. -cough- LilahCordy,LilahFred -cough-)
This also applies from a friendship point of view. House/Wilson, and, mostly inside my own head, Spike/Angel.
Heck yes to both.
my absolute favourite moment in the whole of Angel is Wes growling "He's necessary - for fighting people like you," and then wrestling Lilah to the floor...
-Purrs loudly and sighs happily-
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It really is...
Spuffy seems to be one of the few ships that gets almost as much attention in fandom as it did in canon, if not more so.
Heh, yeah. Very easy way to start a flame war. This is why, personally, I rarely admit to being a Spuffy fan in mixed company.
for whatever reason Spike's romanticism just irks me..I fail at being romantic
Assuming we mean the same thing by "romantic", that's the main reason I'm not very interested in Buffy/Angel. They just keep getting all serious and passionate...
Whereas Spuffy, I became interested in the moment they start snarking at each other while he was chained in a bathtub. And it just sort of continued from there - what with stealing underwear, and face punching, and the fact that, even in season 7, they can't have an awfully romantic night without yelling at each other about it the next day.
Buffy/Angel is all deep and meaningful, but Buffy/Spike is snarky.
Are we shippy soul-mates?
We might just be...
Not like I would ever invent strange, non-canon Lilah relationships..nooope..
Nope. Never. And I'd certainly never read such weird ideas... over and over again... Nosiree.