Season 8

Jan. 10th, 2010 06:19 am
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On the one hand, I'm rolling my eyes and fighting urges to write really snarky crack-fic.

On the other hand, I'm thinking about Spiderman.

Because, you know, Peter Parker made a deal with an evil being - a deal that erased his entire marriage and half his life. And now he's a single guy living in New York, and Mary-Jane has disappeared completely.

I guess my point is... yes, season 8's a trainwreck. But it could be a lot worse.






(So: challenge for you. Comment in this post with exactly how it could be worse.
Could Buffy become a rock star, and make all the other Slayers her backup singers? Could Dawn turn out to have been evil since season 5? Could Angel have decided to erase magic from the world and mass-murder people? Oh, wait...)

Date: 2010-01-09 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dipenates.livejournal.com
I've only read a tiny little bit of Season 8, so this may be senseless, but I have been reading a few bits and pieces about the Big Reveal (or Big Foiler).

I think that Angel being Twilight, on the face of it, somewhat undermines the massive redemption arc of ATS and (I understand) the Angel comics. However, I suppose that the 'why' is currently missing from the discussion and it may clarify things. How it would do that though, is anyone's guess.

Without having read much of S8, I think I would be more disappointed if Twilight turned out to be Giles. (This is possibly impossible.) Or maybe even Spike, because he doesn't seem possessed of enough sturm and drang to have constructed the big evil ideology. I kind of agree with the commenter on Whedonesque who described S8 as Joss's crackfic. None of this discussion is making me want to pick up where I stopped reading.
Edited Date: 2010-01-09 07:32 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-01-09 07:38 pm (UTC)
deird1: Fred looking pretty and thoughful (Default)
From: [personal profile] deird1
None of this discussion is making me want to pick up where I stopped reading.

Me neither. I stopped midway through issue 8 and never went back...



I think I would be more disappointed if Twilight turned out to be Giles. (This is possibly impossible.)

Impossible? Hmmm...
Ooh! What if it's time-travelling!Giles? From the 70's? And actually, what he's feeling guilty about from his Ripper days is that he time-travelled into the future and tried to wipe out the Slayers? (That makes sense, surely?) :D

Date: 2010-01-09 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dipenates.livejournal.com
Ooh! What if it's time-travelling!Giles? From the 70's? And actually, what he's feeling guilty about from his Ripper days is that he time-travelled into the future and tried to wipe out the Slayers? (That makes sense, surely?) :D

Well, that's a thought that's going to linger! It makes as much sense as what seems to be going on. :)

Date: 2010-01-09 08:35 pm (UTC)
ext_30166: Sierra looking holy shit amazing (Default)
From: [identity profile] lavastar.livejournal.com
WHAT IF Twilight was both Giles AND THE FIRST DUNN DUNN DUNNNNNNN.

(And Andrew's secretly been an Uber Vamp with great makeup all along...The First had plans for awhile.)

Date: 2010-01-09 07:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rahirah
Well, Buffy could actually be living the life of a dissolute party girl in Rome, as the mistress of a somewhat amoral supernatural being on good terms with Wolfram & Hart...

Date: 2010-01-09 07:54 pm (UTC)
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OR! She could have followed green_maia's prediction and turned the Slayers into a fascist dictatorship trampling humanity under its iron (but stylish) boot.

Date: 2010-01-09 07:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rahirah
OR!! There could be aliens and the re-incarnation of the court of King Arthur!

Date: 2010-01-09 08:00 pm (UTC)
quinara: Sheep on a hillside with a smiley face. (Default)
From: [personal profile] quinara
I want this.

Date: 2010-01-09 08:27 pm (UTC)
gillo: (Gower)
From: [personal profile] gillo
With Glory/Ben as Guinevere and Lancelot.

Date: 2010-01-09 08:34 pm (UTC)
quinara: Sheep on a hillside with a smiley face. (Default)
From: [personal profile] quinara
And skinless!Warren as Merlin.

Date: 2010-01-10 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peroxidepirate.livejournal.com
*flails*

Best. Idea. Ever.

Date: 2010-01-09 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dipenates.livejournal.com
Ha! A good point.

Date: 2010-01-09 08:19 pm (UTC)
elisi: Living in interesting times is not worth it (My Immortal by ruuger)
From: [personal profile] elisi
Hey! Don't talk about Buffy/Jack like that! *looks stern*

Ahem.

Actually - going with this 'how could it be worse?' - how about Buffy married to Parker and living a life of boredom in suburbia?

Date: 2010-01-09 08:33 pm (UTC)
ext_30166: Sierra looking holy shit amazing (Default)
From: [identity profile] lavastar.livejournal.com
:OOOO

And it was all one big freaky dream...

Date: 2010-01-09 07:53 pm (UTC)
ext_15392: (reason cries)
From: [identity profile] flake-sake.livejournal.com
Oh it could have been worse. I only need to read the specualtion threads.

It could have been Spike. Or Hank Summers.

Date: 2010-01-09 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dipenates.livejournal.com
Or Hank Summers.

Which would have explained why he was too busy for the Ice Capades. He was probably preparing his 'becoming an Evil Overlord' Gantt chart.

Date: 2010-01-09 08:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] flake-sake.livejournal.com
Hey, learning to fly takes it's time.

Date: 2010-01-10 02:12 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-01-09 08:02 pm (UTC)
quinara: Buffy looks up with a bloom of yellow sparklies behind her. (Buffy sparkles)
From: [personal profile] quinara
Hmm, they could have done something that really pissed me off with time-travel, like going back to the Roman Empire and completely mis-representing it. Or going back to Classical Athens and making it some beautiful utopia (which would have annoyed me more). But I suppose pulling on personal pet-peeves is probably cheating...

Date: 2010-01-09 08:29 pm (UTC)
gillo: (Crazy!Spike)
From: [personal profile] gillo
Giles comes out of the shower and Anya realises she has dreamt everything since Tabula Rasa and she is actually engaged to Giles, Buffy is married to Clem and Spike, Willow and Tara have settled down in threesome domestic bliss.

Date: 2010-01-09 08:41 pm (UTC)
elisi: Living in interesting times is not worth it (Daleks: Explain! by dana_cz)
From: [personal profile] elisi
How is that worse? I'd *love* your scenario to be 'canon'! :)

Date: 2010-01-09 08:55 pm (UTC)
ext_15169: Self-portrait (Clem)
From: [identity profile] speakr2customrs.livejournal.com
She's asking for ways it could be worse, not infinitely better.

Date: 2010-01-09 08:31 pm (UTC)
ext_30166: Sierra looking holy shit amazing (Default)
From: [identity profile] lavastar.livejournal.com
Ugh, I'm not even up on S8, and then I went and checked out the Whedonesque link and got mad as hell. Some people were like "Oh, Joss can totally make it work"...but, um, HOW? Currently it makes exactly zero sense.

Date: 2010-01-09 08:32 pm (UTC)
ext_30166: Sierra looking holy shit amazing (Default)
From: [identity profile] lavastar.livejournal.com
Oh, wait, it could have actually been Obama.

Date: 2010-01-09 08:58 pm (UTC)
deird1: Fred looking pretty and thoughful (silly season 8)
From: [personal profile] deird1
It really is completely mad.

That's why I've decided my philosophy is to go even crackier... if possible.

Date: 2010-01-10 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com
I tried that for a while. Joss put me to shame.

Date: 2010-01-09 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fangfaceandrea.livejournal.com
hmm they Could say that the reason TwAngel hasn't killed Buffy is because he claimed her in S3 and have been mated in one of those freaky fic marriages ever since but he only realized this one boring afternoon after S5.


Or Buffy could have Riley's baby, that's my worst case scenario forever.

Date: 2010-01-09 09:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] speakr2customrs.livejournal.com
It would be difficult for it to be worse. About the only thing I can think of would be if Twilight had turned out to be Aung San Suu Kyi.

Date: 2010-01-09 09:11 pm (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Faith Giles)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
I give you your second idea - messing with Dawn would be worse. But, y'know, I care about Dawn and how she's represented, and I pretty much don't care about Angel. I also care about Faith and Giles and Andrew. And I would care about Buffy except comic!Buffy bears so little resemblance to the genuine article.

Date: 2010-01-11 09:01 pm (UTC)
deird1: Fred looking pretty and thoughful (Default)
From: [personal profile] deird1
Good point. What they do to Dawn matters to me much more than what they do to, for instance, Xander.

And I would care about Buffy except comic!Buffy bears so little resemblance to the genuine article.

Heh. Yes.

Date: 2010-01-09 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neutralalienist.livejournal.com
Bwahahahasob.

Well Buffy could have -

....ANGEL is Twilight? WTF? (Yeah, I'm way behind. WTF?)

Date: 2010-01-10 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com
Joss could have taken even more things from the TV series and actively declared that they never happened. Tara who? Whaddyamean Spike and Buffy? Of course Joyce is still alive, we need her to make a joke about how Dawn is a scarecrow this week. Wait, you're saying Buffy slays vampires? I forgot, OK?

Or they could simply have handed the whole thing to Kelley Armstrong. Dawn the werecat.

Date: 2010-01-11 09:02 pm (UTC)
deird1: Fred looking pretty and thoughful (Dawn (bullshit))
From: [personal profile] deird1
Dawn the werecat.

...now I kinda want to read that. *facepalm*

Date: 2010-01-10 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draconin.livejournal.com
Every time I read something like this it reinforces my decision to have nothing to do with the comics! Angel is Twilight???

Date: 2010-01-12 12:39 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] moscow-watcher.livejournal.com
Comment in this post with exactly how it could be worse.

-- Willow turns out to be the Snake Woman's long-lost daughter.

-- It was all the Ethan Rayne's ploy to relocate into Giles' dreamspace *wink-wink, nudge-nudge* and make him unhappy

-- Twilight is Spike in Angel's body. With Lindsey's artificial "evil" hand.

-- Buffy wakes up in a mental hospital and finds out that her doctor, Joss Whedon, has finally found the right medicine for her recovery.

Date: 2010-01-12 01:23 am (UTC)
deird1: Fred looking pretty and thoughful (Default)
From: [personal profile] deird1
Twilight is Spike in Angel's body. With Lindsey's artificial "evil" hand.

Bwah!

Date: 2010-01-12 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] menomegirl.livejournal.com
Twilight is Spike in Angel's body. With Lindsey's artificial "evil" hand.

Bwahahaha!!! That SO needs to be a ficlet.

Could Dawn turn out to have been evil since season 5?

So does that.

And....I think I'm actually interested in the whole evil Angel thing. Or...at least interested in how they plan to explain it all. (not that I need convincing. He did have Lindsey killed, after all.)

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