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[deird_lj]

They really are starting to get good at bittersweet, aren't they?


Unfortunately, I didn't manage to avoid spoilers as successfully as I would have liked - at the start of the season, I already knew that:
- the Doctor would be cloned
- clone!Doctor and Rose would end up together
- clone!Doctor and Rose would kiss in Bad Wolf Bay
- Donna would have her memory erased

...so I didn't end up with that many surprises.

But it really was excellently done. Especially, as I said, with the bittersweet endings.
After all, Rose ends up with the Doctor... except not.
The Doctor ends up with all his friends... and then they all leave.
Donna saves the entire universe... and will never ever know.

Donna made me cry - even though I'd known it was coming.
And then, this morning, I watched Doctor Who Confidential over breakfast and cried about her all over again.


You know, I think the Time War might be the most brilliant invention of the new series, ever.

It really did change the entire nature of the show. Suddenly the world is much less certain, time is more unstable, everything is more dangerous... and the Doctor, the peaceful, pacifist Doctor, is now a peaceful pacifist who happened to destroy half the universe.

Which is, I think, the reason for the big gap between the Doctor and the clone!Doctor. The clone!Doctor will destroy the Daleks, whereas the Doctor won't - because he's done it before.
It's not so much that the idea of destroying them is so impossible - it's the idea of destroying them again.


And I don't really have much more to say - except that I could listen to Daleks saying "exterminieren!" for hours on end...

Comments

[immer-am-lesen.livejournal.com]

Yeah, they are very very good at doing bittersweet.
I must say, not at all what I imagined would happen. I was hoping Donna would stay for another season- she rocks! But, as he said, it had been known from the very start that she would have to lose it all... :-(
Such a sad way to go. She was convinced she was nobody when she was everybody, and now she really is a nobody and can't be told otherwise...

So what kind of job does an out-of-work Timelord/Human hybrid get? Without any personal records, he might a Person Of Interest to the authorities...hey, I wonder if he'll call himself John Smith? :-)

I reckon we'll see Davros again...then he can keep screeching at the Doctor for being a Murderer, when it was the silly new angry pre-Rose Doctor.

But, if that Doc hadn't killed the Daleks we'd all be dead now...they had no compassion or mercy and wanted to annihilate Reality itself (well, megalomaniacal Davros did- I can see why they kept him in the cellar)- surely it's okay to kill beings like that?

[deird1]

So what kind of job does an out-of-work Timelord/Human hybrid get?

My goodness, that's a question. It's weird - the human!Doctor thing doesn't freak me out nearly as much as the de-TARDISed thing. I mean, he'll have to stay in the one place! And in the one time period! Forever!
Weird...

[immer-am-lesen.livejournal.com]

True...
Poor 10.5 will go stircrazy. And he might run off and try to...I dunno, get some excitement in his life, since he remembers everything the Doctor does...just have to remember he's not immortal!
I don't see him as the settling-down-in-suburbia-with-wife-and-kids type...
Since he's so smart though, I bet he can get a cool super-highly paid job, and build his own spaceship and then go travelling with Rose :-D

From Laney

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, I was left wondering how well Dr10(2) and Rose will do stuck in one place. Brings a new dimension to the whole 'first part of the relationship was so exciting - and now it's all monotonous' thing - doesn't it? They've never tried having a relationship outside the Tardis... errr, well, I suppose I should say, without a Tardis.

And their previous relationship was based on the Dr = Expert and Rose = ever-so-willing-and-fascinated pupil to be shown things. Very different, now.

I wonder what Rose has been DOING for two years (other than trying to subvert reality).

I suppose it'll probably be an interesting adventure for the Dr being human and being bound by space/time...

TECHNICALLY, hasn't he been married before (i.e. Dr1 had a grandaughter, right?)?




(Is it just me, or do the Dr's relationship ISSUES remind anyone of House?
Maybe it's just me.)

[deird1]

He did indeed have a granddaughter. Although she's the only family member we've met.


The Doctor's issues are kinda similar to House - vaguely. Along with Mal Reynolds, Angel, and just about every heroic man with a dark past...

From Laney

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, I read an academic's essay the other day explaining why House was a 'Classic Byronic Hero' and likening him to various famous characters like Heathcliff. I imagine the Dr would fit very well into that category...

[deird1]

Ooh! Interesting...

From Laney

[(Anonymous)]

Made me think I'd better get into Wuthering Heights...

I have read a bit of Byron's Don Juan and, my WORD, but it's steamy...

'What men call gallantry, and gods adultery
Is much more common where the climate's sultry'

and

'A little while she strove, and much repented,
And whispering, "I will ne'er consent" - consented."

That sort of outrageous stuff wrapped up in SPECTACULAR language (I just read all the Byron quotes in my quote book fiunding that one and they are rippers all) - it just takes my breath away.

I'm not quite sure why it's a 'Byronic' hero, though - I may have to read the essay again.

Google 'Welcome to the end of the thought process' for her webpage if you're interested in reading her stuff (provided you can cope with just how much she's into House)...