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Because I get wildly curious about unimportant matters such as punctuation.


[Poll #1573612]


Questions? Comments?

Date: 2010-06-03 05:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deird1
Technically, if it's "a Council composed of Watchers" rather than "a Council owned by Watchers", "Watchers Council" would be perfectly correct.


You're aware "Lovers Walk" is the name of an episode rather than a place, right?

Date: 2010-06-04 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roccondilrinon.livejournal.com
Would it? Not disputing, just wondering how that works, grammatically. I'd have thought "a Council composed of Watchers", if it wasn't "Watchers' Council", would be "Watcher Council".

Yes, I know it's the name of an episode, but whether the episode name is grammatically correct depends on whether it's named after a place with that official name, a place with that unofficial name, or named as a description of what happens in that episode. If A, then the apostrophe goes wherever it goes in the official place name; if B, then the apostrophe follows the S as it's a plural possessive; if C, there's no apostrophe as it's a simple plural.

Date: 2010-06-04 04:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deird1
Yeah, apparently. It's the same logic behind "boys school" and "girls toilet" (although... the toilet isn't composed of girls, so... *needs to check my books again*). Both are acceptable.

On the other hand, you can't say "mens toilet", because that would translate as "a toilet for mens" and that's nonsensical. It only works if the word not being apostrophised is an actual word (like "boys", "Watchers", etc).

Date: 2010-06-04 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roccondilrinon.livejournal.com
Mmmkay. See, I'd have said "boys' school" and "girls' toilet" there too. Acceptable or no, the apostropheless form certainly stands out to me as strange. (And yes, "mens toilet" or indeed "mens' toilet" are nonsensical — "men's" is the obviously correct form.)

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